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Great article on Lady Gaga, unfortunately she should stick to her talent, music and entertainment, rather than helping to inflict social engineering policies on members of the military.
She does not have clue how people live or what their limited rights are in our military society.
If she was honest, she would put out a video or statment to all parents. She should say that through her efforts, their (parents) son or daughter, who now joins any military service, will have to live intimately (shower,change clothes, sleep, take a crap) with an openly gay person of the same sex. This gay person can virtually do or say whatever they want. Any complaints by straight military personal to their superiors, will either be ignored or go on their record as a negative reaction to the new, open gay policy, regardless of what the gay person did or said. Why should straighy, military personnel, be subject to abuse by Gays?
That's the way the Military is. No military personnel are going to want to make waves or complain about any gays, if they want to be promoted. That why DADT was developed, to be fair and to stop abuse of gays and straights.
Honestly, I have been kinda sick of Gaga lately, just tired of the outfits I guess, but KUDOS to her for sticking up for the the rights of a minority group who deserves to be treated like everyone else. Sure, there are attraction issues the military will have to find ways to deal with, as far as straight and gay in the same showers, but as far as don't ask don't tell, it is stupid, cannot believe that came into effect to begin with. Don't tell your buddy you have a boyfriend or girlfriend when they ask and tell you about theirs? Just lie? I mean, the policy keeps gays in the closet, and many may think that is a good thing, but it is never a good thing when someone cannot be who they are, and in a casual conversation feel sad to have to dodge questions all because they like the same sex? STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 06 2010 at 10:12 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyAnd according to Gaga... it's our repressive policy on homosexual service that lends to children bullying, berating, and suicide... YA RIGHT! Dr. Gaga - where did you graduate from? Where was all the child misguidance 25 years ago - when you were allowed to ask what someone's sexuality was and punish those who told? How about 15 years ago when you couldn't ask, and you didn't have to tell? And how about now - when kids are so disconnected from one another that the majority of their social interactions is via text messaging and sending photos of their stools to one another? You don't know what you're talking about, so go back to Hollywood and roll around naked in the millions of dollars you earn off the poor that shell out their bucks for a few moments of your entertainment. That's what you do - you entertain... so do monkeys, you just earn more. If you want to be more than that, if you really want to advise us on social responsibility, than get in the game sister!!! Volunteer to help people, join the military, be a firefighter, teach in school, volunteer to substitute teach or tutor children, have children and raise them so perfectly (lol), deliver food to the elderly, take some care to the homeless, give medicine, donate to batter men and women's shelters, go be a big sister for Big Brothers & Sisters, put your money where your mouth is! From the mouths of those with no experience come the rhetoric of ignorance.
December 01 2010 at 12:26 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyPART III - Many heterosexuals have been discharged for their choices in sexual behaviors that have surfaced and were found unbecoming conduct. So take heed; true gay men and women look at the same sex similarly as do hetros do at the opposite sex. If this is not addressed to cope with privacy issues, there will be social consequences! If you don't believe there will be social consequences, then lets experiment first with a unisex policy where men and women shower and birth together, on land, on the sea, on the shore, and down on a submarine!!! Do you know what hot racking is? That's a term used to describe a soldier or sailor getting out of bed and another one climbing in. Do you think opposite sex service people could cooperate at that level with each other? OH, by the way, we're not talk about 40 year olds... we're talking about 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 25 year olds! Most, out of the home for the first time. You'd have to be extremely naive or an absolute moron to think that the ramifications would be minor. But - if we could succeed with a unisex system, we could certainly succeed in open sexual orientation policies. I certainly don't think any of you are morons, but don't be naive either - the ramifications will be severe and we will lose thousands of heterosexual soldiers and sailors for their conduct towards openly serving gay soldiers and sailors. Though they will follow orders, their actions will not be pure and they will surface as insensitive and discriminative people. FINALLY - the cost... the cost for doing this begins with policy changes and updates, forms and questions to cope with the infinite screening that must take place for the modern soldier, systems established to deal with conduct and behavior that has not been addressed before, decisions on the what punishments will befall violations of conduct relating to this, etc., etc., etc.. If we have to address privacy, there will have to be added facilities to deal with self-professed homosexuals that enjoy the company of women (fakes), and the reasonable request for hetro privacy from homosexuals. In the greatest country, I believe it is possible. I believe all patriots should have the opportunity to serve - should they qualify, and should they obey the constitution and lawful orders given them by the officers appointed to them. Hetro or gay... neither should be permitted to degrade the high integrity and standards we hold each other to; those standards which preserve our unified strength in the most dire situations. To that end, we do not ask about someone's sexuality... and each is neither obligated to tell what their sexuality is - so to should be in their private and public actions should they not violate our core values. BTW - Is this sudden resurfacing call to this dilemma really a White House diversion from our economic situation?
December 01 2010 at 12:06 AM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyPART II - How ignorant that Gaga would equate the present day social dilemma of children bullying and berating one another, with the service policy of don't ask, don't tell - which by the way, in and of itself does not condemn nor condone a person’s sexuality; it is the actions one takes publicly that calls conduct to question. The problems our children are having... ooops, wait a minute, does Gaga have any children? The problems they are having and how they cope with these is largely due to social demands that include cell phones stapled to their ears from age 8; texting hundreds of people daily with socially disconnect messages; stating things on line that would make a marine or sailor blush - and things they would never state to their parents... our social problem with our children is complex, and very NEW. The minute we deny access to technologies that allow children to behave in mischievous ways, someone in social circles - Hollywood, schools, social services, etc., cries out, "that's not fair - they're being deprived". From boot camp and tech training to my final tour, I encountered soldiers and sailors that were clearly more interested in the same sex than the opposite sex. No one challenged their patriotic discipline and nobody punished them for being obviously gay. Until that is, they felt the unquenching need to announce to the world. Then - by their actions, some of these fine men and women were ordered out of service. Is it fair that they have to be silent about their sexuality? Did you know that heterosexuals in the military are not permitted to publically behave in manners that are unbecoming their leadership roles... which include public lewd behavior? The only thing that might be considered unfair at this point is that if they are found to be openly gay - through self revelation - then they cannot serve. That is not fair. But let’s not join a gay parade just yet... there are standards that must be met regardless of your sexuality. In the service, we don't announce our sexuality, we don't parade our political, social, and ideologies - those are the rules that serve a greater purpose; a purpose that unites us as people capable of doing a job that only few in the country are truly willing to do. These rules unite us in combat and we are soldiers first. Admittedly though, our actions in public often indicate what our sexual preference is; should this be OK for gay service men and women? I might agree on that... that's where fairness might count. Good qualified service men and women should be allowed to serve.
December 01 2010 at 12:05 AM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyPART I - DONT down play the affects and DONT seek the advice of Hollywood. I'm for equality – and I’m for service to country by all Americans. I served in the US NAVY for Twenty (20) years. After 20 years of honorable service, I was told it was time to go home... I hadn't turned 40 years old yet. Is that fair? I was denied a program leading OCS as an unrestricted line officer because I'm partially color blind - but we could number all the wiring systems to accommodate my needs... is that fair? I'm more active and fit than many at 30 years of age - so what gives? "Fairness?" Equating open gay service in the Armed forces is not about fairness. Ever hear that life isn't fair? Some people get rich off the poor that listen to her gaga music... is that "fair"? SENATORS and PEOPLE - fairness and equality are not synonymous with sensibility, practicality, and reason; these ideals do however work together in their proper place. Just because you want to serve does not mean that you are qualified, let alone "best" qualified, or doesn't mean that you should serve. Ask America what fairness means and you will have 300 million different answers. Should we build wheelchair ramps on aircraft carriers to be fair to those less fortunate Americans? That's a little more obvious... isn’t it? Or is it? Some people are adept to emotional stress, while others collapse. Some people are claustrophobic and can't serve on submarines; is that fair? Service to country comes in many forms, but at the very least - it demands SACRAFICE - and it doesn't have to be the same for everyone. If it's too much to sacrifice announcing our sexuality to the world, then are you/we ready to serve? When did the great Wizard of OZ, or the Hollywood Godess determine that in order to be fair... in order to keep homosexual children safe... we must let gay men and women serve openly in the US Armed Forces??? Are you kidding GooGoo GaGa? OK Gaga, when you devote your life and resources to fairness for 20 years, I will stand by you and listen. But you and many others (particularly in Hollywood) yell from the palpate of hypocrisy leveraging social transformations to propel your careers further... you know NOTHING of what argue - but you are eager to thrust your opinion like a hero without sacrifice. To this, I raise the "BS" flag.
December 01 2010 at 12:05 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplySocial repression is an incredibly necessary part of making the Army and the Marines cohesive non-individualistic units. Most of the people who serve are certainly not overly concerned with subordinating whatever behavior they choose of duty - otherwise they would not have joined. It would be disaster if anyone in any combat capacity were allowed to do whatever they thought was right during duty hours. It is a matter of trust and a feeling that the guy next to you in a foxhole is the same as you that allows the effective function of combat teams. IT IS NOT THE CIVILIAN WORLD !! As a 22 year retiree of Army Infantry and Special Forces I speak with a bit more experience than some. I have tours in Vietnam, Panama, Desert Storm and many advisor missions in Central,and South America to credential my opinion of combat.
November 30 2010 at 6:16 PM Report abuse Permalink +4 rate up rate down ReplySo now we heard it from the expert, Lady Gaga, about gays serving openly in the armed forces. I guess that it then, who could possibly know better then she?
November 30 2010 at 6:07 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down Replyi will try again to get this thru. my husband served in the airforce and informed me a lot of high ranking officials were gay when he was serving. what is wrong with people knowing.
November 30 2010 at 4:50 PM Report abuse Permalink -3 rate up rate down Replyi dont care what their sexual preference is ,,if they are brave enough to enlist and risk their lives for our country they are good enough to get the respect they deserve,,
November 30 2010 at 4:00 PM Report abuse Permalink +8 rate up rate down ReplyI agree with you... oh, by the way, gay people do serve in the military, are awarded medals and given the respect they deserve. What they don't get currently, is the right to violate the UCMJ (military law), which presently states that the military won't ask if your gay, and you are not permitted to serve and announce that you are gay. That's the rules as they are - meaning, gay people do serve and can joing the military today, leagally. But announcing your gay is a violation of our code of military conduct.
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