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"Once this legislation is signed into the law by the president, the Department of Defense will immediately proceed with the planning necessary to carry out this change carefully and methodically, but purposefully," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Saturday. Change is coming, Gates said, but the current policy stays in place during an implementation process.Am a vet of desert storm and had lots of gay soldiers next to me and was proud to serve with them, their sexual preference never made a difference to me. They were good soldiers, period.
December 19 2010 at 11:59 AM PermalinkEvery group that has been held back through the years in this country has had to make their voice heard in order to facilitate change. Women have had to work for equal rights, which they still do not have, but they can now vote. Pay still not equal. If the Blacks had sat back and kept quiet, would things have ever changed for them? If homosexuals want to sign up and fight for this country, praise be to them. It is their lives they are willing to sacrifice. How many of you protestors are willing to do that??? When will this hatred end??
December 19 2010 at 11:55 AM PermalinkThey got by under DADT by successfully disguising their life style; others could only guess but not respond negatively. The military has been sorting them out for years and will continue to do so—by using different reasons for discharging them. However, by admitting their life style they will be exposing themselves to taunting, bullying, and perhaps even physical harm when away from authority. That is the real problem
December 19 2010 at 11:54 AM PermalinkWe were in the same league of countries like Iran, North Korea ,Saudi Arabia etc who also have bans on gay people in the military. It is nice to see that even though excruciatingly slowly, we will join the ranks of modern ,civilized western nations for whom discrimination of civil rights for some of their citizens is illegal. Sad to see that onbly 6 Republicans were on board and that even McCain who pledged to repeal in his campaign lied through his teeth then and voted against it now.
December 19 2010 at 11:51 AM Permalink +1How stupid can Congress be (well we all know the answer to that) continuing the Don't Ask Don't tell policy in the military. I mean if gays are already in the military how hypocritical is all this?? What is the difference if they keep it a secret or they tell. I don't get it they are still gay. They have to live by the same code of ethics others do in whatever armed forces they belong to. If they are brave enough to sacrifice so much to fight for our country what does it matter. For some reason being Gay, to some people, is the worse thing in the world, well it is not. According to the Bible it says take the board out of your own eye before you take a speck out of someone else's. When Jesus came (oh can I say his name) who did he pick for his apostles, who was he defending when he said ye without sin cast the first stone, and who did he call hypocrites??? Being a hypocrite is just as bad as anything else. So stop appeasing the Republican Christian voters. I am a Christian (which probably after this comment I will be considered not one) but I feel a person's sexual orientation should not even be a political issue nor should abortion. With the economy in the toilet and the war that seems to go on forever this is what we are all up in arms (no pun) about. Start working for the people, health care issues, fix this economy, create jobs, and be thankful that anyone would give up their life for this country especially with a Congress that has no respect for those in the military unless they are heterosexual.
December 19 2010 at 11:18 AM Permalink +2I have nothing against gays and support the fact that they should have their rights. However, there are certain situations that are not appropriate for everyone to engage in and this happens to be one. There are many drawbacks to it:
When I was in the Army, there were open showering, open sleeping quarters whereby there were 2 people bunking (bottom and top) in open barracks. You may be taking showers with several people at one time. This does not contribute to a healthy environment especially for such an important mission as given to the military. Whether those encironments exist today I do not know. The real sad part of it is that those congressmen and president that supports the issue have never been in the military and have no clue as to the affect it may have on their mission. Instead they dodged the draft or went off to Harvard and got an educational deferment when there was a draft. It is abvious that Senator McCain knows what he is talking about by being a soldier and experiencing the situation and by opposing it. I will venture to predict that this will have an adverse affect on the mission and result in many problem areas such as increased friendly fire accidents, discipline, and complaints of prejudice when it comes to denying promotions and other rewards. One last comment: I would compare this situation to allowing both the male and female soldiers to live in the same barracks; however, that is not allowed.
There SHOULD be a draft. Every young person SHOULD serve,
December 19 2010 at 11:00 AM Permalink +7I'm all for it and not just for the men. Both sexes should be included in it. Then maybe the young people will have more respect for their country.
December 19 2010 at 11:20 AM Permalink +5No big surprise that I disagree.
I wonder though... how many military chaplains will be told - Don't speak on this message, it goes against your beliefs, but you aren't allowed to teach on any passages of the bible that might offend those coming in - after all, it could be interpreted as "hate speech."
I've studied the verses and looked at them from several points of view in the bible and the criticisms are well answered. http://www.tektonics.org/TK-H.html for those willing to look at the critics answered regarding homosexuality.
I can see it weakening the military becasue there are those who do believe that homosexuality is a behavior issue rather than a gentic one (and rightly so if one is being intellectualy honest when lookiing at research as to the science and even as to why it was removed from the DSM to begin with.) There are those will not reup when the time comes around, so I wonder if more will leave over this issue than those who are gay who will enlist?
Homosexuality isn't about who you are, it's about what you do.
It seems that in many ways, this is all about being able to announce your sexuality, not about your skills in defending your country. Up until now, a person could serve and do their job without it being an issue, which is why DADT was around. Now, those who announce it will be looked at differently, and for that matter basing their lives by what they do in bed, rather than being concerned about how they serve. To repeat a quote I did think was really good on the matter, "it may be that gays and lesbians may want stick with don't ask, don't tell if they want their military record to speak for itself, and not their sexual orientation."
It is about time that our Government shows the public how to stand on the truth. These politicians that think it is ok to lie about who you are, show their lack of truth, why? I think this says alot about their character, and actually is a control issue on the republican party. It shows the lack of ability to do the right thing because of how others look at the issue. That to me is a weakness, and I hate to think that our gov't will fold on an issue if it is the right thing to do if others don't agree. Its about time to stand by the truth!!
December 19 2010 at 10:44 AM Permalink +1Who cares what you sexual orientation is as long as you don't harrasss? Why would you need to announce it? Personally I would not be comfortable in common showers with someone of my sexual orientation getting their thrills but in the grand scheme of things I would just have to deal with it because it probably happens and is never known. Just keep your sexual preference to yourself and I will to.
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