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This means another federal trial judge, likely from within the 9th Circuit's jurisdiction, will likely be called to Arizona to preside over the case. It is also possible that Clarke will subsequently ask to change the venue of the trial -- beyond Arizona or to a smaller city within the state -- because of prejudicial pretrial publicity against her client and the possibility that he will not be able to get a fair trial under the Constitution in Tucson or Phoenix. Change of venue motions almost always fail, however -- even Jeff Skilling couldn't get his Enron trial moved out of Houston -- and it is unlikely the judge who ultimately presides over this case would move it out of state.No one asked me what I thought or think about this heinous crime. I am somewhat of a liberal, world traveled, I have met many cultures and lived in many parts of the world--particularly Russia. The vitriole and the rhetoric is akin to the McCarthy era, having the same effect. It is no wonder that Americans don't put the words and this man's actions together. Americans don't know their history. John Wilkes Booth, the man who killed Martin Luther King, the men and women who committed suicide because of McCarthy--all of them were "influenced" by hate speech! This man,Jared, was no different--crazy he is, but he knew what he was doing and he knew right from wrong! He may have thought he was right for his actions!
January 11 2011 at 3:33 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm concerned that leading up to this shooting that this man had made some statements that clearly shows he has had mental issues that has never been addressed prior to this act. As a researcher of mental illness it seems in his mind he believed that the government is part of some kind of organization that was trying to control peoples lives individually. No matter what the outcome will be on this case it's very sad that so many people lost there lives and were injured. This could be a case where someone with a mental illness needed treatment and the signs were ignored. That is happening to much in our country and needs to be addressed more in our communities and in Washington.
January 11 2011 at 10:33 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm concerned that leading up to this shooting that this man had made some statements that clearly shows he has had mental issues that has never been addressed prior to this act. As a researcher of mental illness it seems in his mind he believed that the government is part of some kind of organization that was trying to control peoples lives individually. No matter what the outcome will be on this case it's very sad that so many people lost there lives and were injured. This could be a case where someone with a mental illness needed treatment and the signs were ignored. That is happening to much in our country and needs to be addressed more in our communities and in Washington.
January 11 2011 at 10:33 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAll Clarke's clients are in jail. I guess avoiding the death penalty is counted as a win. You have to notice that the 9th Circuit will provide the judges and 9th Circuit judges are somewhere to the left of Trotsky. They are just as likely to find society guilty and Loughner as innocent as an angel.
January 11 2011 at 9:48 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI suppose your right; it just seems as if we are missing something, although I am not sure what. Let’s see if all goes as planned by the court appointed savior. This killer will be found not guilty as an outcome of a prearranged insanity plea between the court appointed Attorney Ms. Clark and the prosecuting Attorneys, representing the victims.
And then this psychopathic killer will be relegated to a state mental institution where he will be submitted to some form of drug therapy for how many years to come, we can’t know, (hopefully different then the drugs he was using before committing his senseless crime).
Imagine! That, during all the intervening years of institutional drug therapy at the hands of this or that clinical psychologist, the killer will have had countless meeting with his now close confidant; the court appointed savoir Ms. Clark, who will have filled countless appeals to this and that court for reevaluation and release of her client. And during all this time, there will of course be the disgruntled news reporter who is either out of a job or has some vague intuition, that the true story was not really told. Of course, all those pesky financial and personal negotiations will have to be worked out well in advance of any books or film rights between the court appointed Attorneys and the free lance writer to assure the killer is not harmed with insidious reporting. And during all this time, we the American tax-payer will have paid all the bills...does that sound about right....WFR
MSNBC, Hardball, Chris Matthews. During a discussion about Obama's poll numbers, the Democrat pollster Mark Penn who worked for Hillary said this about what Obama needed to help turn his poll numbers around.
PENN: President Clinton reconnected through Oklahoma --
MATTHEWS: Because of the bombing down there!
PANNE: -- and the president right now is seen as removed, and it wasn't until that speech that he reclicked with the American public. Obama needs a similar kind of event.
http://www.breitbart.tv/flashback-operative-mark-penn-says-obama-needs-similar-event-to-oklahoma-city-to-reconnect-with-voters/
Someone should investigate this. Isn't it a little convenient? Call me crazy but the media was ready to go and start blasting conservatives, talk radio, Sarah Palin, the Tea Party etc. They all had the same talking points. They said he was a right wing nut who targeted a liberal politician. Turns out he was a left wing nut!
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