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White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs sparred with a Russian reporter on Thursday over whether the Tucson shooting spree that wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and 13 others and killed six was a result of the freedoms enjoyed in the United States.
Andrei Sitov, a correspondent for Russia's official news agency ITAR-TASS, offered his condolences to "all Americans" and the victims at the start of his question during a briefing at the White House just hours after President Obama returned from a memorial service in Tucson.
Sitov said the slaughter, which took place in a supermarket parking lot while Giffords was holding a "Congress on your Corner" event, "does not seem all that incomprehensible, at least from the outside. It's the reverse side of freedom. Unless you want restrictions, unless you want a bigger role for the government."
With that, Gibbs recounted what Obama said Wednesday night at the memorial at the University of Arizona -- the shooter's motivation may never be known.
"But I think it's important to understand that, as I said earlier, the event that was happening that day was the exercise of some very important, very foundational freedoms to this country: the freedom of speech; the freedom to assemble; the freedom to petition your government; democracy or a form of self-government that is of, by and for the people...all very quintessential American values that have been on display along with the tremendous courage and resilience of those in that community and throughout this country that have had to deal with this tragedy," Gibbs said.
Sitov pressed on, asking, "This is America, the democracy, the freedom of speech, the freedom of assembly, the freedom to petition your government. And many people outside would also say -- and the quote, unquote "freedom" of a deranged mind to react in a violent way is also American. How do you respond to that?"
Gibbs strongly protested that assertion.
"No, no, I would disagree vehemently with that. There are -- there is nothing in the values of our country, there's nothing on the many laws on our books that would provide for somebody to impugn and impede on the very freedoms that you began with by exercising the actions that that individual took on that day. That is not American.
"There are -- I think there's agreement on all sides of the political spectrum: Violence is never, ever acceptable. We had people that died. We had people whose lives will be changed forever because of the deranged actions of a madman. Those are not American. Those are not in keeping with the important bedrock values by which this country was founded and by which its citizens live each and every day of their lives in hopes of something better for those that are here."

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Kent

Part of living in a free society is that bad things happen, both to the average person, as well as to leaders.

Yes, Russia and the old Soviet Union don't have people killing government leaders, and crime has been low. But, people didn't have the abiliity to vote for their leaders during the Soviet era, and criticism of the government has never been well received by the Soviet Union or Russia.

If you asked the average American whehter he would rather be absolutely safe, but have no say in how his govenment is run, or have a small risk of being a victim or violent crime while being able to vote, complain to his elected officials, and post views on the internet, he will choose the latter.

January 14 2011 at 12:10 PM Report abuse +6 rate up rate down Reply
truthforfreedom

It's because of our freedoms he is allowed to come here and question those freedoms. If America becomes progressively more dangerous, it is not because we have been granted our freedoms. That is absurd. With every mentally ill person, there are 20 sane persons who live healthy lives. Incidents like this Tucson tragedy brings out all sorts of wild ideas and I was happy to hear Gibbs answer in the way he did. When faced with the idea of maybe not having our freedoms, I think stunned Mr. Gibbs. Good job Gibbs.

January 14 2011 at 12:01 PM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
Peter "J"

At seventy years now, I can recall my past quite clearly as a Drug and Alcohol counselor in many settings. Usually I worked with "High Enders", Doctors, Lawyers, Priests, Upper crust ladies and gents and a few down enders.

My most rewarding experience (that tested me to the Max) was my volunteer work at a correctional institution working with Murderers. No pay, the State ran out of money for such a thing, not even gas money. I did however get cookies and milk in the basement of the Prison's church set out by a lady worker who made them at her home.

With the 25 or so, my success rate was around 10% over a 5 year period. A few went on to college, some got good jobs, some married and their wives took care of them.

The rest were recidivists.

A commonality amongst those most needful was their "private religion". Most had skulls or entire skeletons hidden away in their rooms or a closet. I noticed Jared worshiped and communed with a skull sitting atop of a perche surrounded by orange peelings. Quite unusual to say the least.

Another commonality was a "shattering of faith", like Jared, most had been kicked out of school, dumped by the girlfriends or boyfriends, told to leave home and had been fired numerous times and difficulty maintaining relationships.

Quite alot of this going on around from coast to coast and beyond. I see Iran and N Korea acting like potential murders, all it would take is one push in the wrong direction.

I always see the Macrocosm in the Microcosm.

January 14 2011 at 8:27 AM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
seadawgsx2

Uncle Sam has been sticking his thumb in everyone's pie around the world, and lately he's been sticking his hands and feet in ours. Freedom is a two edged sword which is probably the point the Russian was making and why many resist our brand of "Freedom" around the world. "Violence is never acceptable" is almost laughable as we prosecute two wars and fund numerous other campaigns. And while we hope to kill those resposible for 911, we will: caudle, feed, care for, educate, provide free court representation, for the Tucson murderer. I guess it is a luxury to be killed by a fellow American.

January 14 2011 at 7:33 AM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
egent10486

Let Sitov talk all he wants because once he's on the plane back to his OWN country his mouth might as well be duct taped shut. OUR freedoms permit Russian "brides" to come here and live, Russian gangs to exist on our soil and also wallow in OUR comfy jails, and he can freely shoot his mouth off HERE without fear of reprisal. How dare he talk as if a killing spree by some nut case is a basic freedom. Starting to take a terroristic tone???? Maybe Sitov should experience another of our new freedom programs - HOMELAND SECURITY ! Go home and don't come back - you OUTSIDERS who are permitted in our country are a big part of our problem.

January 14 2011 at 7:26 AM Report abuse +7 rate up rate down Reply
rrdng8

Freedom of a deranged mind in a free society can be dangerous. Happens quite frequently in America but the victims usually aren't as high profile as last Saturday. You usually do and should take certain precautions for future acts of violence. When President Kennedy was assassinated that was the last motorcade in which a president rode in a limo that was a convertable. I do believe that things are going to progressively get more violent in our country (not that they already haven't). Just watch out who's calling who crazy or who wants "Their" thoughts or belief's to be the right ones!!

January 14 2011 at 6:14 AM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
Curt

Certainly we could go the other direction (a "bigger role for government") and establish a dictatorship ......... and allow a "deranged mind" (e.g. a Stalin or a Hitler or a Pol Pot Mao or an Idi Amin) to instead run the country. Then sit back and watch some serious slaughter.

January 14 2011 at 6:05 AM Report abuse +5 rate up rate down Reply
arrowkid53

This shooting is just another symtom of a rotting of moral values this country is self afflicted with. This is a country whos entire entertainment system is based on violence out of liberal hollywood. What ever made us think we could expose our youth to this vile form of entertainment and get any other result.We are living in a very sick country and our time is running out.This country will follow its moral values or lack of right down the drain.It will happen if change is not soon.

January 14 2011 at 5:45 AM Report abuse +6 rate up rate down Reply
bdmiessl

Come on, I'm surprised Gibbs didn't agree with the Russian. Freedom of speech is a very quintessential American value? Democrats have been calling for a return to the conveniently mis-named "fairness" doctrine for years, and especally this week.

January 14 2011 at 5:42 AM Report abuse +7 rate up rate down Reply
Bill

I would also remind the Russian, that the reaction of a deranged mind to react in a violent way is not just American it happens everywhere, especially in Russia. He seems to assert that there are no deranged minds in Russia, he needs only to look at his own government to find deranged minds, and the first one would be Putin. In Russia the government controls the people; here we the people control the government. That is the essential difference between us and Russia. Read Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya life story, and her book "Putin's Russia" to understand the differences between our freedoms, especially freedom of speech, and the freedoms in Russia. On Oct., 7, 2006 she was killed (assassinated) where she lived because she dared to speak out against the government and criticize Putin. Her murder has yet to be solved. The Russian reporter has conveniently forgotten about the murder of his international respected colleague.

January 14 2011 at 4:20 AM Report abuse +4 rate up rate down Reply

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