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It wasn't over. In fact, it's about to heat up again. A study commission chartered by Congress is poised to send up to Capitol Hill a recommendation that the last remaining barriers to women – those that formally exclude them from infantry, armor and special forces -- be removed.Israel excluded women from combat after the desecration of the bodies of several dead female soldiers. If wisdom includes the ability to learn from the mistakes of others, USA leadrers ain't got it!
February 02 2011 at 5:17 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyOkay, the statement that females have been awarded the CIB did it. Show me the General Orders, show me the photos taken of the awarding. You must be in a infantry unit,in a 11 series,infantry MOS. If they were female they can not be in the MOS. So, how can this be true?
If the people don't care about females being killed and wounded at a much higher rate and the chance of fights,jealousy,sexual assaults and friction then let them in. I saw enough problems as more and more MOS's opened to women. There were no women in Divisions at any MOS when I joined the Army. By the 1980's they were in positions through out Divisions in support and combat support MOS's.
As a infantry Platoon Sgt. I had to deal with a conflict between one of my married NCO's fighting with a Officer over a female soldier from a medical company billeted next to our infantry company. Things like that became more common in the mid to late eighties.
My son has served as a MP for eleven years with many females and some are good at their jobs and some aren't,just like the men. However,the men tend to look out for them more than each other. The romance part comes up alot,also.
How many wars have been won by female armies in history? How many future Super Bowls will be won by female football players? Who comes up with the G.I Jane stuff?
January 23 2011 at 4:41 PM Report abuse Permalink +1 rate up rate down ReplyAlthough I am totally in favor of letting a woman sharing in the terror of serving on the front line, but let me ask one question. A very simple question. How many wars could this country win if we had an all female U.S. Marine Corps? How may wars would we win if we had an All female 101st Airborne? How many wars would we win with an al female Green Beret unit? America is living in a world where movies and a leftist media creates a world that does not exist!
This is just a funny rendition of G.I. Jane.
Hey, maybe the military can let women serve in combat right around the time they can pass the same physical tests that men are required to pass during basic training. Entirely new, much lower, physical standards had to be created for women because they simply could not make it otherwise, yet these people want to put women in combat? You have got to be kidding me. I was a member of the United States Army for most of the first decade of the 21st Century. Thank God women weren't allowed in combat then and hopefully they never will be. I wouldn't have joined to begin with if they were allowed in combat, and I can guarantee a whole lot of people that are still in the military feel the same way. And please spare us the ridiculous "[Random Male soldier] thinks [random female soldier] could kick any male's butt" nonsense quotes that always show up in these "women in combat" articles. Get back to me when a female soldier has the ability to carry around 200 pounds of dead weight on her back. Thankfully one chamber of Congress is run by a party that understands the military exists to win wars, not serve as a laboratory for various social experiments.
January 20 2011 at 9:23 PM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyLetting females into the Infantry would be a complete disaster. On my company's last deployment to Iraq we fell under an MP battalion and as such had females placed in our ranks. One officer was caught sleeping with one of his female soldiers which caused a huge commotion and created more issues to be dealt with in the platoon. My company constantly had discipline issues and a person’s sex became a paramount issue. One female complained she wasn't allowed to gun because of her sex when in fact she was just too short to see over the turret. She kept complaining and complaining until she was allowed to gun (standing on an ammo can). The first time she fired the .50 the ricochet kicked her off the ammo can and that gun truck was rendered completely combat ineffective. This was in training thankfully or it could have meant lives were lost instead of face. But all she had to do to gun was threaten an IG (inspector general, like internal affairs for the Army) complaint which would be a black eye to the unit and the officers leading it.
Never mind the inappropriate fraternization that ALWAYS occurs in units with both sexes. There will always be favoritism in the Army, that's just a fact of life, but when sexual relationships begin to develop (which don’t kid yourself, they will) these problems are only exacerbated. These issues affect units in support branches of the Army which is bad enough. All these issues, which take center stage in the politically correct Army we have today, just pile on top of all the issues we already have.
They physical aspects are just way too obvious to point out. Going up a mountainside with 70 pounds of gear on in 110 degree weather kicks the butt of the most physically fit males on earth already.
The problem is this is being pushed as an issue of progressiveness, sticking up for that rare female that wants to fight in the Infantry, as opposed to an issue of practicality. In all practicality this is a no brainier to bar females from the infantry but the people who push for these repeals and changes in combat units have no idea how we operate, and the issues we already deal with. Sometimes political correctness needs to take a back seat, we have enough to deal with already.
Ask this simple question, would an infantry platoon be more or less combat effective with females in it? That's all that it really matters when the bullets start flying.
An Infantryman
Exactly. I get so sick and tired of people who refuse to acknowledge the fact that men and women are physically different. Sorry, but the vast majority of women who join the military simply could not physically handle the rigors of combat on an extended basis. As I mentioned in a previous comment, women are not even held to the same standards as men during basic training, particularly in the Marines, yet we are supposed to believe none of that matters when they are put into a combat situation? You gotta be joking me. WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME AS MEN.
January 20 2011 at 9:27 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyI believe the national sentiment would be far different in the event a female soldier were to be captured in combat vs. her male counterpart, and rightfully so. After all, we haven't even experimented with things like organizing a male/female professional football team. Isn't the notion of combat far worse? Do other countries have women in combat? Have we ever captured one of theirs?
January 19 2011 at 8:15 PM Report abuse Permalink +1 rate up rate down ReplyIf it become acceptable now, eventually, if the draft is ever reinstated, women will be drafted too. I know there are exceptional women, however, they can serve their country in other ways. Being honest, there women who suffer from PMS and that could be quite scarey depending on their "mood swings".
January 19 2011 at 6:09 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThey must be running out of people to police the world
January 19 2011 at 5:54 PM Report abuse Permalink -3 rate up rate down Replyoh there wont be any problems, just send all the males in for sensitivity traing , yeah thatll work
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