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The White House dispatched Vice President Joe Biden to Capitol Hill Thursday in an effort to bring feuding Democrats and Republicans to the negotiating table over funding the federal government through Sept. 30.

But an hour after Biden went behind closed doors with the Hill's "Big Four" -- House Speaker John Boehner, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell -- the participants emerged with little more than an agreement to allow the Senate to vote on the parties' wildly divergent budget-cutting proposals and an unusually short written statement from the famously verbose vice president.

"We had a good meeting, and the conversation will continue," the statement read.

The conversation Biden spoke of had begun earlier in the day with a bitter disagreement between the parties -- not only over how much money should be cut from this year's $4 trillion budget, but even over how much had already been trimmed.

Gene Sperling, the director of the president's National Economic Council, offered an additional $6.5 billion cut from the current budget. Along with $4 billion in cuts Congress approved earlier this week, Sperling said Democrats will have eliminated $50 billion in spending from President Obama's original budget proposal for the fiscal year. (That total reflects a default cut of $40 billion in December's continuing resolution, which locked in 2010 spending levels.)

Pelosi weighed in on the numbers, saying that the figure proved that Democrats would "meet Republicans halfway" toward their original goal of cutting $100 billion for the year.

But the GOP, led by Boehner and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, balked at the Democrats' numbers, saying their cuts will be to real budget numbers for the year, not something based on what the president had hoped to spend.

Cantor also called this week's $4 billion agreement nothing more than a start toward the $57 billion more they plan to cut this year, one week at a time, if necessary, until the Democrats agree to negotiate on larger cuts.

Cantor told Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer on the House floor: "I would expect the House to continue its process of cutting $2 billion a week until we can see where the gentleman's caucus, and then the Democratic leader in the Senate" are.

Beyond the disagreement over how much to slice from the budget, the two sides had little common ground Thursday over which federal programs to target to get the billions in savings they are seeking.

Pelosi called Republican-sponsored efforts to cut child nutrition, education and programs like Planned Parenthood non-starters.

"If the cuts are about undermining the education of our children, harming the creation of jobs, and also undermining our economic recovery, I think we have to subject those cuts to some pretty harsh scrutiny," she said.

Hoyer also stood his ground, saying the Republicans were showing no willingness to compromise.

"If that's the position, then I think we will not be able to reach agreement," he said.

As the two sides squabble over the billions they will or won't cut in 2011, all involved acknowledge that the current budget battle only serves as a staging ground for the much larger battles to come over the country's $14 trillion debt and the looming crises with entitlement spending that Congress will have to address in the near future.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal hours before the meeting with Biden, Boehner said that he plans to offer a budget for the next year that would begin to rein in the ballooning costs of Medicare and Social Security.

"People in Washington assume that Americans understand how big the problem is, but most Americans don't have a clue," he said. "Once they understand how big the problem is, I think people will be more receptive to what the possible solutions may be."

The speaker also offered a rare dose of optimism on the talks to solve the near-term budget impasse. "We can do this in two weeks," Boehner insisted. "I'm a glass-half-full guy."
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walkeagle2

It is obvious how much disdain Obama has for cutting the budget! Sending Slow Joe to negotiate immediately reduces the excercise to a comedy of minimal importance!

March 05 2011 at 4:03 PM Report abuse +4 rate up rate down Reply
Falcon

we are all democrats' we all do the job' and we all take care of buisness' lets be a team.

March 04 2011 at 9:08 PM Report abuse -3 rate up rate down Reply
sgerlyn

If the Democrats would have done their job and passed a budget for the year, we wouldn't be going through this!

March 04 2011 at 8:12 PM Report abuse +7 rate up rate down Reply
gridge9356

I'm still waiting for the Republican "Leadership" to cut off the give away to the Oil Industry. How many Billions of profits do they need to make before it is decided they do not need to be on the government "dole"? How about it - Tea Party - let's press for no help for the Oil Industry....

March 04 2011 at 7:51 PM Report abuse -8 rate up rate down Reply
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djaurand

Specificly which "give aways to the Oil Industry" are you talking about?

March 04 2011 at 8:04 PM Report abuse +8 rate up rate down Reply
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Iamright Always

. . . here's an excerpt.
Oil industry officials say that the tax breaks, which average about $4 billion a year according to various government reports, are a bargain for taxpayers.

Seeing how Exxon just reported record PROFITS of 40 billion, I think they can afford to give up the tax incentive. Oh that's right, they're Cheney's buds.

March 04 2011 at 9:34 PM Report abuse -5 rate up rate down
jackw40

Giveaway to Big Oil? Why haven't the Dems done that? They had control of the purse strings since 2006. Pelosi and Reid had control of Congress from Jan 2007 til just recently and had their man in the White house since 2009. Why didn't they do it? If its so important to you Dems, why wait until the keys change hands to start carping about it. The Repubs have hand control for 2 months and you guys are all ready pulling the "big oil has Repubs in their pocket" card. That is getting old, how about getting new material.

March 04 2011 at 9:32 PM Report abuse +6 rate up rate down Reply
mrtaxattorney

The AMERICAN people voted the Repulicans in to slash the buget. Period.

March 04 2011 at 7:19 PM Report abuse +9 rate up rate down Reply
passengerfan

The biggest problem in Washington today is the Government keeps talking about Social Security cuts, but those on Social Security have not received a raise in the last two years ever since Obama took office I consider that a cut since it has never happened under any past administration.
If the Government would take SSI from the general fund SSA would not have a shortfall. It was never intended for SSI to come out of the Social Security trust but everyone can thank LBJ a democrat for that and also he was the one who first robbed the Social Security fund to pay for the Viet Nam war. Stop taking SSI out of Social security and it will heal itself.

March 04 2011 at 7:11 PM Report abuse +7 rate up rate down Reply
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djaurand

That classis Democrat thinking; that not getting a raise is a cut

March 04 2011 at 8:06 PM Report abuse +7 rate up rate down Reply
tracer2524

Boehner is the lead reindeer at the moment but unfortunately these folks do not learn from their past mistakes. Sadly in that smug smog of contempt the Republican Partys tarnished halo will fade into the L word come 2012.

March 04 2011 at 5:36 PM Report abuse -11 rate up rate down Reply
ThinkUp70

Americans know how big the problem is, and we know that our elected officials in Washington haven't been paying attention to the economical deficit, but insist on "giving" foreign aid, and resist on having "our" country oil independent, which would probably cure half of the budget, because of our dependence on buying foreign oil, but then, what would a single American citizen know about it . . . . . . . . . .

March 04 2011 at 5:31 PM Report abuse +11 rate up rate down Reply
GARY

Why would Boehner want to talk with Biden? When the DEMSwere in power they LOCKED REPS OUT voteing for OBAMA CARE & otherI LIB s and LAWS??? The REST of the DEMS are GONE in 2012, THANK GOD!!! AM I REALLY ALLOWED TO THANK GOD ON AOL????)

March 04 2011 at 4:25 PM Report abuse +12 rate up rate down Reply
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littlebig1ct

The Dems never locked out the Republicans to anything about health care reform. They were always asking for input but the Republicans just said"No" to anything and everything, just as they do now. The only thing they have to add now, is just leave anything that might cause the rich to have to pay anything more.

March 04 2011 at 5:48 PM Report abuse -13 rate up rate down Reply
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djaurand

littlebig1ct
The Republicans kept proposing no mandatory insurance requirement, and the Democrats kept pushing the unread bill ahead with the mandatory requirement, that every poll at the time showed the majority of American people didn't want.
Why do you think a record number of Dems got kicked out of office...their voting record

March 04 2011 at 8:10 PM Report abuse +6 rate up rate down
mrtaxattorney

Obama REFUSED to LISTEN to the Republicans when he was in power.

March 04 2011 at 7:20 PM Report abuse +7 rate up rate down Reply
nokabosh

Obama's approach to the budget is to propose more spending then agree to cut some but end up with a net increase. That's not cutting the deficit. And he's sending Biden, who couldn't keep track of where the Stimulus money went, to the Congress to negotiate. The repubs need to stick with their plan to limit spending to 2010 levels. Ignore Biden -- he's never been right on anything.

March 04 2011 at 4:05 PM Report abuse +12 rate up rate down Reply

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